Welcome to the Flourish Systems Change Podcast
Conversations about regenerative design
What will it take to restore balance to our world for future generations’ survival?
In this timely new podcast, two spirited thinkers, Sarah Ichioka and Michael Pawlyn, discuss a bold set of regenerative design principles, drawn from natural and cultural wisdom with change agents from around the world. The Flourish Systems Change podcast offers ideas and solutions for designers, clients and inhabitants alike to build a thriving future, together.
Ep7: Long Time with Roman Krznaric
Our guest today is public philosopher Roman Krznaric, who writes about the power of ideas to change society. We speak with Roman today about how rethinking our understanding of time and planning for the long term can achieve regenerative transformation and a better future for generations to come.
Ep6: Systems Change with Sumi Dhanarajan & Anna Biswas
Our guests today, Sumi Dhanarajan and Anna Biswas, are leaders at Forum for the Future, a leading international sustainability nonprofit organisation. For over 25 years, they've been working in partnership with business, governments and civil society to accelerate the shift towards a sustainable future.
Understanding how to make changes at a fundamental level requires an integrated way of looking at the world - a systems view. But many of us are not taught to think about problems in this way. That's why we wanted to seek out the perspective of an organisation who put systems thinking front and centre.
Ep5: Web of Life with Jeremy Lent
In this episode we welcome Jeremy Lent, author of ‘The Patterning Instinct’ and ‘The Web of Meaning’. Jeremy investigates the underlying causes of our Civilization’s existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future.
Ep4: We Are Nature with James Ogude
We welcome Professor James Ogude to explore the concept of Ubuntu - a Nguni Bantu term meaning "humanity" that translates as "I am because we are" or "I am because you are". Together, we discuss how the humanities can complement scientific perspectives, and how modern cultures can learn from lost languages and Indigenous knowledge, particularly in relation to community and a rebalanced relationship with the Earth.
Ep3: Collective Climate Action with Crystal Chissell
As Senior Director of new initiative Drawdown Communities, Crystal Chissell leads efforts to produce informational programming and guides to support local, collective climate action. These efforts will focus on scaling adoption of Project Drawdown solutions in a way that values the well-being of all people and nature.
Ep2: Regenerative Futures with Kate Raworth
Kate Raworth, renegade economist and author of Doughnut Economics, joins Flourish Systems Change to press the case for rethinking the entire global economic system. Drawing on insights from emergent schools of thought – including complexity, ecological, feminist, behavioural and institutional economics – she argues that today’s economies are divisive and degenerative by default, and must become distributive and regenerative by design.
Ep1: Design for Change (Series Intro)
With Sarah, at the Hive in Singapore & Michael at Cast Iron Productions London, we kick off the Flourish Systems Change Podcast by explaining why sustainability can never go far enough.
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Production credits
Presenters Sarah Ichioka & Michael Pawlyn
Audio producer & composer Tobias Withers
Producers Kelly Hill (London) Shireen Marican (Singapore)
Research & production assistant Yi Shien Sim